Wednesday, March 21, 2012

More…gun sense and nonsense

Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas
Since my last post on this subject I have been banned by the liberal blog Daily Kos for my views on gun rights fanatics, and vilified by a number of the blog’s pathetic commenters who ban together to oust anyone who writes about gun control.  And they even brag about this.  Normally I would reply to comments as I do on this blog, but early on it was obvious to me that the scourge of gun nuts on DK did not deserve a reply. 

You can see what I am talking about here in one of my earlier Daily Kos articles on gun control re. challenging the 2nd Amendment.  Just scroll down to the comments and you will see the idle chatter of a gang of misfits, much like the conversations I remember from my elementary school days.  Distressing if your IQ is in the triple digits.  Normal these days when you challenge gun rights fanatics.  But now on to more gun sense and nonsense.

ARIZONA/CALIFORNIA/NEW MEXICO/TEXAS: The multiple rifle reporting rule that covers these four border states was upheld by U.S. Judge Rosemary Collyer saying it was “sufficiently narrowly tailored” to be rational enough in applying only to the states involved.  The gun industry claims it will only ‘burden” law-abiding retailers and not curb drug cartel sales.  The NRA filed the appeal.  Dealers must report multiple sales of semiautomatic rifles to the same person within 5 days.

The semiautomatic weapons, specifically assault rifles, should be re-banned in this country now, and, anyway, who the hell would need more than one even if they remain legal?

MEXICO: Mexican President Felipe Calderon is convinced that the United States is the major source of guns that end up in the hands of the drug cartels.  He blames it on weak American gun laws that are a fact throughout this country recently.  He also claims that in the U.S. criminals in states with strong gun laws go to states with weak laws, like Arizona, for their weapons. 

The Brady Campaign says that these weak gun law states, also including Utah and Florida, “export” crime guns to other states at a rate of nine times higher than states with stronger laws.  So the problem isn’t just across the Mexican border, the same situation exists right here in the U.S.  Brady feels that trafficking within and outside the country can only be curbed with stronger federal gun laws.

FLORIDA: The NRA backed bill, HB155, barring health care providers from asking about or talking to patients and their families about guns, was passed and signed into law in 2011.  The measure was later overturned by a federal judge because it violated doctors’ free speech rights as well as other things.  A new bill has been introduced in the Florida House, no doubt a product of the NRA, to revise the language in HB155 to gain passage. 

The hilarity of this whole issue is that the NRA will go to any length to pass legislation that will make it easier for their member gun nuts to carry their weapons any place they choose, even to the hospital’s emergency room.

ARIZONA: It’s about time this state surfaced, since its mission is “no gun control, nowhere, nohow.”  Arizona has copied “don’t ask, don’t tell,” but it has nothing to do with gay rights.  Disgraced state Sen. Russell Pearce started the trend for lawmakers to bring their guns on the Senate floor until he was ousted in a recall election.  New Senate President Steve Pierce doesn’t necessarily welcome weapons on the floor; rather, he just doesn’t want to know they are there.

Of course the NRA was there, lobbying for the new guns on campus bill, but there were no reports if these political suck-ups were armed.  This all happened only three days after the three students died in the Ohio school shooting.

Charlton Heston ranting NRA gun propaganda

MICHIGAN: Michigan has decided to boost its state’s revenue by encouraging youngsters under the age of ten to shoot a gun.  Another purpose for the young shooters program, says the state, is to teach kids how to hunt when they are young.  There is no age limit for hunting in Michigan, although some restriction apply.  The kids have to be supervised by a licensed adult, operating within arm’s length.  There was no mention of educational requirements other than mentoring.

I am going to go out on a limb here and hypothesize that the NRA is firmly behind this program in order to make sure that future membership rolls have adequate candidates.  Reminds me of the tobacco industry’s current concentration on luring young people to smoke.  That also kills people.


  1. “The semiautomatic weapons, specifically assault rifles, should be re-banned in this country now, and, anyway, who the hell would need more than one even if they remain legal?”

    Jack, the inconvenient fact is that in 2010 Aks, ARs, Uzis and all other semi-automatic “Assault Weapons” as well as all other rifles accounted for 358 murders nationwide. That is less than three percent of all homicides and comes to less than two per day. Not only does that mean that no one in you state will be murdered by an “Assault Weapon” or any other rifle this month but likely not next month, or even the month after that.
    By contrast, over four times the number of murders, 1,704, were with knives or cutting instruments, over twice the numbers of murders, 745, were with hands, fists, feet, etc. and more murders, 540, were committed using blunt objects like clubs, hammers, baseball bats, etc.

    By pushing for a ban on weapons that are so rarely used in crime the citizen disarmament lobby prove that their goal is, indeed, total citizen disarmament.

    The public has seen past the citizen disarmament lobby’s deception. Gallup found that support for the so called “Assault Weapons Ban” dropped from 59% in 2001 to 43% in its Oct. 26, 2011 poll, and those who opposed to such a ban increased from 39% in 2001 to 53% in 2011.

    Moreover, it is becoming more evident that the Obama Administration “Fast and Furious” program funneled U.S. guns into the hands of the Mexican Drug Cartels in order to justify more gun control. If the Brady Campaign’s true goal is the prevention of gun violence then they would be voicing outrage daily over this scandal, but they just look the other way. Their true goal is citizen disarmament or at least disarming the common citizen. They seem all for arming bodyguards for the rich and privileged class.

    1. Although I don’t know you, I don’t think you are saying that the 358 assault weapons murders aren’t important enough to take these weapons out of the hands of the criminals, which means getting them off the streets altogether. And your reasoning about no deaths in my state and the comparison with knife killings sounds like something right out of the NRA playbook. Assault weapons should be available only to the military and law enforcement. Period!

      Yes, the drive for more guns becomes more obvious every day. But I wonder if this is new purchasers or just the same gun bubbas buying more weapons for their arsenal? I am sure you and the NRA can enlighten me on this. And the reason for the lax attitude today is due to brainwashing by the gun lobby, but it is just a matter of time until Brady and Coalition to Stop Gun Violence take the lead, supported by the recent new interest for gun control evidenced by some members of Congress.

      Let’s get something straight right now. Brady, CSGV, myself included, do not want to take legal guns away from law-abiding citizens. The 2nd Amendment does provide that right. However, in our interpretation of the law, it does not give you the right to take your handgun out of your home and walk all over town with it in your pocket concealed, or even holstered. I don’t want you protecting me; I trust the police for this and have NEVER had a problem, nor do I know someone who has.

      That, plus stronger laws for background checks, the gun show loophole are the primary mission of most gun control advocates. As I have said before, when the NRA is ready to negotiate, we will get somewhere on this issue. If that doesn’t happen, then gun control advocates will have no choice but to go for the jugular.

    2. 'Fast and Furious' began under Bush. It is not an Obama program. Of course, as a gunwack, actual facts are pretty unimportant to you, as long as you can blame Obama for something.

  2. Not finding many supporters for your cause, are you Jack?

    There's a reason for that. You're a modern example of the Temperance movement. You're advocating laws that produce more danger to public safety in the NAME of public safety.

    But you probably already know this. You're certainly capable of it.

  3. Of COURSE you have been banned. I too was banned due to the gunsel gunwack posse. The gunwacks stalk anti-gunwack persons such as you and myself. They would show up in comment sections where I had made a comment, and drop a TR. Retaliatory TRs are of course a big bad no-no, but I was not a stalker, so get a number of TRs. I also posted about other topics that some DK readers who are stupid were sensitive about.

    DK is a stupid place. What they have done, with their banning thing, is set it up so that only gangs and gang members survive. I did go back one time, but actually expressing an opinion on DK will get you banned.

    I now blog at Booman Tribune, the Frog Pond. It is a civil place, where people do not TR others, and we have discussions and disagree without being banned.



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